I feel the same way about Emma, I noticed it so much with this weeks episode that she acts like shes the queen bee and Joe Carroll's fav. The way she walked up to him she totally loves him and would do anything for him. I think she manipulates people with sex, but remember that she has a whole bunch of baggage, like when they found her house with all those crazy drawings on the wall. I think she is really a sick-o. The only person she really seems like she is nice to is the kid, but that's only to please Joe. I didn't want to watch this show cause I thought it would get cancelled right away, like oh so many fox shows(Arrested Development,Futurama,Wonderfalls, Keen Eddie), Rubicon on AMC a while back that was sooo good, anyway I gave it a try and loved it. Told my mom and brother to watch it and they did and now they love it too. My mom doesn't even mind the threesome or the blood. I find I can't wait until each week to see what they will do next. I wonder how far they will go with it because you know that Hardy is going to get a cosmic screwing.The scariest thing about this is you don't know who might be helping Joe, wow that could really mess with your mind. I wonder if the head FBI women(forget her name) might even be one of them.You know they will have some twisty thing where it is someone you least expect.
James Purefoy is extremely hot, and I have no idea why I'm not watching this show. TO HULU!
Based on the replies it doesn't look like anyone is watching this show, I don't know what the ratings are for it, but start watching it everyone so I am not disappointed by it being cancelled.
Actually a lot of people are wathcing this show and it has already been renewed for a second season.But truthfully, this show is bad - all style and no substance. The FBI always comes across as incompetent and stupid and the followers are always smart and highly-trained. Yet it is never eplained how a sleazy, failed writer and an incompetent killer inspire others to follow him. He got caught by a really incompetent FBI agent yet has followers who keep defeathing the same FBI. So who's better - him or his followers? But they still remain slavishly devoted to him.And don't get me started on how the victims never fight back. When someone with a broken finger is strangling a lady to death, said lady just dies - she never fights back. And when a bigger guy with a sizeabe belly is razored across said belly, he just bleeds to death and never screams for help, never mind that it's never that easy to slash the abdominal aorta.
I was home sick a couple weeks ago and watched the first four or five episodes while I was stuck on my couch. I wasn't impressed, honestly. I agree with everything you said and I found the violence and gore very gratuitous and unnecessary to the story. It seemed like the writers and producers were going for shock value over substance. After a while, I got bored by the whole thing, no longer cared about any of the characters or what was going to happen and decided not to bother watching any more of it. I was very disappointed after all the hype, which is becoming a theme in my life lately -- TV shows, movies, books ...
While you are both probably right on some of what you have said, I think that is true of most shows like this, but I still enjoy it because there is a puzzle to be put together and I like watching it play out. I am not ever a fan of comedies (exceptions Arrested Development, Louis) because they always have laugh lines and have to spell eveything out to everyone all the time, so I enjoy this kind of thing because I lose myself in it. For me things have to be a bit off the beaten path for me to like it BECAUSE it is so not real that I am not compairing it to the real FBI. Like Fringe was enjoyable for me because it had that science fiction element that had nothing to compare it to so it could be true or believableThe CSI shows have been all the rage but look at this http://www.policeemployment.com/resources/articles/CSI-gets-wrongI also liked House which was so impossible but different than most soap opera medical shows that everyone likes, Saint Elsewhere was an exception to that. My son and I used to watch House and high five each other every time someone pucked up blood. We did it alot towards the end of the series. I suppose it's what you are into or not. Gore doesn't freak me out.
The gore bothered me because it seemed forced. If you want gore, it should at least be integral to the storyline. Otherwise, it feels manipulative. But my real issue with the show was that I really just din't care. It didn't take long for the storyline to get tedious and dull (to me, anyway). I simply found it to be poorly written.That said, if peopke enjoy it, I hope it stays on for a long time. I still mourn shows I dearly loved that got cancelled far too soon.
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The thing is though, this puzzle is rigged. Anytime the writers find themselves in a bind, they will come up with someone convenient to be one of the thousand followers and voila, the bad guy gets to escape again.For example the lady cop came out of nowhere and helped Emma escape with Joey.I enjoy a puzzle too and if the FBI actually were competent and Joe was actually portrayed as something special, instead of being told over and over, then this show would have been something special. I mean look at the way Joe escaped from prison. How did he manage to escape from a moving prison car? The show couldn't show that because the writers are just not that creative.Hannibal Lector, he ain't.And yes, I agree with Renee about the gore. It's there as if just to shock viewers. Look, how edgy we are! The thing is that I could accept the gore if the story telling was compelling and not riddled with plot-holes and the characters were consistent and competent. But hey, if other people enjoy it, which they seem to be, good for them.I, personally will just wait for Hannibal on NBC for my serial-killers fix.
Hmm Hannibal on NBC looks promising, but I would much rather see this Hannibal have a show on NBChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7H4i1yWoGIYEAH!
This one is the best I love him. If you ever get the chance to see him so it. So I am off topic but I love him:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdSfDeWQlII
I became convinced that Claire is a follower as well. I wish I could remember what about her conversation with Joe in prison made me think it in the first place. I'll have to go back and watch the scene.
Yeah I know what you mean I think that Clare or Parker could end up be a Follower, especially since Parker's parents were in a cult. See I think that any Follower will even let themselves be hurt in order to play their part in the "book"
I'm 95% sure that little blond FBI boy who is always with Ryan is part of Joe's group. I was pretty convinced after Clair's watcher explained to her who he was and what his task has been. I mean, if Clair and that one that got away chick both had watchers of course he's not going to just leave someone as important as Ryan unsupervised. And, that guy is stuck to Ryan like glue. It's gotta be him. Remember how he tagged along with Ryan to try to save his sister, yet conveniently did nothing to help the situation? Ditto when the black FBI agent was killed by the surprise cult wife.
I think there's been plenty of times that we've seen that Emma's smugness and know-it-all-ness is a front that she puts on to seem/be strong...and I think that's smart because, HEY, you're running or trying to run a group of SERIAL KILLERS. Or wanna be serial killers. Weakness is kind of the thing that will get you killed. If I was in her place, I'd probably come off as if I were all-seeing, all-knowing too, because I am not going to show weakness in a pack of wolves.And I think Emma is both kind of feeling her own power for the first time in her life (because we've seen what her relationship with her mother was like) and trying to FIND her power and to feel special and powerful and all these things that she's never been able to be or find or have. She wants to be Joe Carroll's best girl (be it Girl Friday or handmaiden or whatever) because that's the NATURE OF A CULT. Everyone wants to be close to Daddy or God or whatever patriarchal nomenclature they're going with. And she's a woman trying to make it, quite literally, in a male dominated field. A field which could actually and truly get her killed. So I don't think her presentation is unreasonable or not in following with the character. I mean...you fall in with a cult BECAUSE you're vulnerable to that kind of manipulation. Because you have that hole that needs to be filled and this charismatic leader is promising and seeming to fill it. And from that sense of fulfillment, comes that born-again smugness; that you have access to this secret that is just between the members of this small, chosen group, that you have your fingers on the pulse of things in a world full of dumb sheep, that you are better or superior because you have access to and attention from this great personage. I think you get that same smugness from any rabidly evangelical group, whether it's a cult, or a more recognized religious sect, or a political party *koff*GOP*koff* or even certain cadres of philosophical thought, like atheists.
Great Roadhouse - coulda used just a little more Bacon.
MMMMM sweet sweet bacon!
I'm so happy that I'm not the only person with a crush on Hannibal Lecter!I would totally stick my fingers in gunshot wounds if I had gloves and a gunshot victim nearby.
Re: creating a cult after failing at writing... isn't that what happened with L Ron Hubbard? Boom! Scientology slam!
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